How Can You Live In This World And Yet Be Innocent?
Cum putem trai in lume si ramane totusi inocenti?--de J. Krishnamurti
Cum putem trai in aceasta lume si ramane totusi inocenti? Fii mai intai inocent si apoi traieste in lume, nu invers. Fii vulnerabil, fii foarte vulnerabil.
Nici nu puteti intelege ce inseamna sa fii inocent; daca esti inocent, poti trai in aceasta lume, in alta lume, in orice lume. Daca insa nu esti inocent, ajungi sa faci compromisuri cu aceasta lume si, drept urmare, se dezlantuie infernul. Invata asadar despre inocenta. Nu incerca sa o intelegi cu mintea. Nu este un cuvant. Este acea stare in care nu te prefaci, nu porti masti, nu esti in conflict. Fii in acea stare si apoi poti trai in aceasta lume. Poti apoi sa mergi la birou; poti sa faci orice. Daca stii ce inseamna iubirea, poti face orice doresti. Nu este niciun conflict, niciun pacat, nicio durere...Astfel vei trai in aceasta lume pe deplin si diferit.
Intr-adevar aceasta este Transformarea Mintii. Aceasta este transformarea fundamentala a omului. Starea de inocenta este starea de transformare. In transformare sta nasterea unei noi fiinte. Aceasta fiinta doar actioneaza si niciodata nu reactioneaza, si pentru ca traieste pe taramul inactiunii, aceasta actioneaza cu eleganta si gratie, o nesfarsita provocare pentru toti - o provocare care este inexplicabila si, ca urmare, misterioasa. O astfel de fiinta traieste, traieste doar, insa prin insasi faptul ca traieste, ea trezeste in ceilalti o stare de urgenta majora.
Desi pare neobisnuit, omul-inocenta devine un nucleu solid pentru o revolutie totala si profunda in societate. Ne trebuie sa ne asteptam ca mai intai sa aiba loc transformarea individului pentru ca apoi acesta sa conduca revolutia sociala. Acestea nu sunt doua procese diferite. In procesul de transformare a omului se pune deja in miscare schimbarea fundamentala a tesutului social. Nu este nicio diferenta de timp intre cele doua procese. Procesul de transformare este unul singur si integrat. Omul transformat reprezinta inceputul revolutiei sociale. Acest om nu devine un lider facand apel la revolutie sociala. Un astfel de demers este o imitatie si, ca urmare, actiunile cauta sa tina loc de idei.
Intr-un om cu desavarsire inocent - prin chiar viata lui, revolutia sociala a inceput deja. Doar atunci cand exista un interval de timp intre transformarea individului si transformarea societatii, se manifesta in lume leadership-ul malefic si exploatarea hidoasa ce-i urmeaza.
Intrebari-cheie pentru reflectie: Ce inseamna pentru voi a fi inocent? Ai putea impartasi o experienta personala in care ai trait cu si in inocenta? Ce te ajuta sa fii un om inocent?
Excerpt from J Krishnamurti and the Nameless Experience
by Rohit Mehta.
SEED QUESTIONS FOR REFLECTION: What does being innocent mean to you? Can you share a personal story of a time you really lived by being innocent? What helps you be a human of innocence?
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On Nov 27, 2019 Krishna Kadali wrote :
Living innocently to me means living naturally. As a human being, we are elite species on this earth and we have tremendous potential to make the world a much better place for all other life in this universe. Humans instead have forgotten about their purpose for existence and living in an accumulation mode without realizing what they are really living for. Last few years for mehave been a time of inner change facilitated by my meditation and connecting with inner self. Today I don't see any need for covering myself with any mask. Leading a simple life and find ways to help as many less fortunate people as possible seems to me is the way forward to lead a happy and peaceful life. Thank you Awakin circle members for helping me progress along this way through your reflections.
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On Nov 26, 2019 Anilkumar Pandit wrote :
Living in gratitude is being innocent. It's a catalyst for shedding ego, naturally invoking our child-like spirit and be humble to realize our dependency on others and the existence, thereby requesting any help with ease.
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On Nov 26, 2019 Marianne wrote :
I am wondering if this post is for males only.
I appreciate and respect everyone's sentiments HOWEVER, the exclusive language is troublesome.
If you would like to understand my position please try this: settle-in, close your eyes and have someone read to you Krishnamurti's words using FEMALE pronouns only (that is if you are male).
I was asked to do the same with the reader using male pronouns. I was forever changed.
Exclusive language is not acceptable in a society that seeks equality.
Thank you for your understanding.
I appreciate and respect everyone's sentiments HOWEVER, the exclusive language is troublesome.
If you would like to understand my position please try this: settle-in, close your eyes and have someone read to you Krishnamurti's words using FEMALE pronouns only (that is if you are male).
I was asked to do the same with the reader using male pronouns. I was forever changed.
Exclusive language is not acceptable in a society that seeks equality.
Thank you for your understanding.
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On Nov 26, 2019 Purus wrote :
I minimizedmy requirements to live a innosent routine. It took time and I prepared my mind to avoid conflict with close relatives friends and contacts for shake of my share of facilities. Now they are offering me what I compromised and let go my share of things. A wonderful experience of innosence routine. I went through many ups and down, finally I succeed. Meditation, yoga , food style and exercise breathing practices helped me a lot. Thanks my spiritual guides.
thanks all, who helped me to reach this stage of innosence.
thanks all, who helped me to reach this stage of innosence.
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On Nov 23, 2019 David Doane wrote :
Being innocent literally means to cause no harm. Sometimes I am innocent, such as when I am speaking from what I am experiencing, including to say what I see, imagine, fantasize, assume, feel, and/or think, speaking caringly, honestly, directly, and openly, and speaking goallessly, that is, not trying to manipulate or make any particular outcome happen. When so doing, I am confident I am causing no harm -- occasionally the other may feel upset in some way, but that's not my causing harm. What helps me be a human of innocence when I am one is knowing it is the right way to be, trusting the value and benefit of it, and knowing the satisfaction that comes from it.
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On Nov 22, 2019 Bansi Pandya wrote :
What does being innocent mean to you? Just living.
Can you share a personal story of a time you really lived by being innocent? If I try to share a personal story then living is no more that would destroythe living. I have to explain an apparent story in words that is my mind created story in sequential time in subject-object relation. JK has said "Don't try to get it. It is not the word." It is a mutation of mind (Me) or individuality based on past experiences.
What helps you be a human of innocence? When "Me" is not there than living only happens it is functioning of that energy or consciousness. Energy doesn't need any help.
Can you share a personal story of a time you really lived by being innocent? If I try to share a personal story then living is no more that would destroythe living. I have to explain an apparent story in words that is my mind created story in sequential time in subject-object relation. JK has said "Don't try to get it. It is not the word." It is a mutation of mind (Me) or individuality based on past experiences.
What helps you be a human of innocence? When "Me" is not there than living only happens it is functioning of that energy or consciousness. Energy doesn't need any help.
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On Nov 22, 2019 Jagdish P Dave wrote :
Being innocent means being true to oneself, being authentic, with no pretensions, no masks and no conflicts. Being innocent means revealing our original face with no facade. When we live innocently. it not only creates a fundamental change or transformation in the individual but also in the society at large.The person living innocently becomes a potent nucleus for social revolution. Such a person becomes a dynamic agent of transformation.
Living innocently requires awakeningand vigilant awareness of the clouds of fear arising in our mind and heart. I was blessedto have my father who displayed courage to stay firmly on the path of being true to himself. He became the role model not only for us but also for the society he lived in. The other great model for my individual transformation and the transformation of the country was MahatmaGandhi. Both, my biological father and the father of the nation, have had a positive strong impact on my transformation
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