There Are Many Voices Beside Ours
अन्य कई आवाजें हैं, हमारे अलावा , द्वारा एला कारा देलोरिया हम, ( मूल निवासी अमरिकियों) को मौन/ शांति के बारे में पता है | हम उससे भयभीत नहीं होते हैं| वस्तुतः , हमारे लिए मौन, शब्दों से अधिक शक्तिशाली है| हमारे बुजुर्गों को मौन/ शांति के प्रकार के बारे में शिक्षा मिली थी और उन्होंने ही वो ज्ञान हमें दिया है | पहले अवलोकन करें, फिर ध्यान से सुनें, उसके पश्चात ही कार्य करें, ये वो हमें बताते थे | उनके जीवन को जीने का ये ही तरीका था |
आप में से ज्यादा तर लोगों के साथ इसका उल्टा है | आप बातें करके ज्ञान हासिल करते हैं|जो बच्चा स्कूल मे सबसे ज्यादा बातें करता है उसे आप इनाम देते हैं| आपके उत्सवों ( Parties) में आप सब एक साथ ही बातें करने की कोशिश करते हैं| आपके कार्यस्थल में आप यहाँ के हर दम मीटिंग्स होती रहती हैं जिनमे सब कोई एक दुसरे को बीच में टोकता रहता है, और सभी तक़रीबन पांच , दस या सौ दफे तक बातें करते हैं| और आप उसे समस्या के समाधान का तरीका कहते हैं| आप अगर एक कमरे में हैं और उसमे मौन/शांति है , तो आप घबरा जाते हैं| आपको उस जगह को आवाजों से भर देना है | अतः आप अनिवार्यता से बातें करते रहते हैं, यह जानने से भी पहले , कि आप क्या बोलने वाले हैं |
(आधुनिक) ज़माने के लोग तर्क वितर्क करना जानते हैं| वो दुसरे व्यक्तियों को अपना वाक्य भी पूरा नहीं करने देते| वे हरदम टोक देते हैं| हम निवासी अमरीकियों के लिए ये सभ्य व्यवहार नहीं माना जाता बल्कि बेवकूफी मानी जाती है | अगर आप बात करना शुरू करते हैं तो मैं आपको बीच में नहीं काटूँगा| में सिर्फ सुनूंगा | अगर मुझे आपका कहा पसंद नहीं है , तो मैं आपको ध्यान से सुनना बंद कर दूंगा लेकिन आपको टोकूंगा नहीं| जब आपकी बात ख़त्म हो जाएगी, तब मैं अपने मन में विचार करूंगा जो आपने कहा है , और मैं, अगर बहुत जरूरी नहीं हो तो , यह भी आपको नहीं कहूँगा कि मैं आपसे सहमत नहीं हूँ| अन्यथा , मैं सिर्फ चुप रहूँगा और मैं चला जाऊँगा |
आपने मुझे बता दिया है जो मुझे जानने की जरूरत थी| अब कुछ कहने को बचा नहीं है |पर शायद अधिकांश आधुनिक व्यक्तियों के लिए ये पर्याप्त नहीं है |
व्यक्तियों को अपने शब्दों को बीज के रूप में आदर करना चाहिए | वे उन्हें रोप दें, और उन्हें मौन/शांति में अंकुरित होने दें| हमारे बुजुर्गों ने बताया कि धरती हमसे हमेशा वार्ता करती रहती है, पर उसे सुनने ले लिए हमें शांत/मौन रहना होगा |
अन्य कई स्वर हैं, हमारे अलावा| कई आवाजें |
मनन के लिए मूल प्रश्न : आप इस धारणा से कैसा नाता रखते हैं, कि अन्य कई स्वर हैं, हमारे अलावा ? क्या आप उस समय की एक कहानी साझा कर सकते हैं जब आप मौन/शांत थे, और आपने धरती को बातें करते सुना हो? आपको अपने शब्दों को मौन/शांति में अंकुरित होने में किस चीज़ से सहायता मिलती है|
Ella Cara Deloria, also called Aŋpétu Wašté Wiŋ, was a Yankton Dakota educator, anthropologist, ethnographer, linguist, and novelist. She recorded Native American oral history and contributed to the study of Native American languages.
SEED QUESTIONS FOR REFLECTION: How do you relate to the notion that there are many voices besides ours? Can you share a personal story of a time you were silent and able to hear the earth talking? What helps you grow your words in silence?
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On Oct 11, 2023 Jagannatha Das wrote :
We have a lot to learn from indigenous tribes.
One time I was inside the forest of Mindoro in the Philippines when I came to a peak along the path. Since it was a strenuous hike, it was but natural to take a pause and enjoy the panorama below. Apparently, this was also true for the natives.
Not before long a tribesman also arrived at the peak. He was wearing a g-string, carrying a spear / walking stab. He was also a bit surprised to find me there. But he did not say a word. He simply squatted there in silence. After a short interval, another native arrived at the peak. Just like the other man, the 2nd indigenous tribesman was also just wearing a g-string. He was also a bit surprised to encounter a city fellow but did not say anything.
So we all sat there in silence for a few minutes. I did not say anything because I do not know their language. They were contented with the silence.
After some time, one of the men pulled out a small bamboo container holding tobacco. He rolled a ci... [View Full Comment]
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On Oct 10, 2023 Jagannatha Das wrote :
It is not easy to simply listen to others tell their stories. For most people that I know, listening to a story is simply waiting for the next opportunity to butt in and start blurting their own version of a story.
Listening is hard. However I have learned a lot more by simply listening. If I do not agree, I try to say so only if it matters. In most cases I do not think that it was worth discussing. It always depends on the situation and the people involved. But it is not easy to blurt out what's on my mind.
Active intentional listening to understand the one speaking as he or she intends to communicate. What is the message being conveyed?
Observe. Listen. Then Act.
Shalom!
Listening is hard. However I have learned a lot more by simply listening. If I do not agree, I try to say so only if it matters. In most cases I do not think that it was worth discussing. It always depends on the situation and the people involved. But it is not easy to blurt out what's on my mind.
Active intentional listening to understand the one speaking as he or she intends to communicate. What is the message being conveyed?
Observe. Listen. Then Act.
Shalom!
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On Sep 25, 2023 Priti Patel wrote :
It is really connected passage with my life. I always got the feedback that I jumped in discussion,I never listen or I always talk rather than keeping silent.I want to improve on this skill to be silent even in the situation where I want to speak.
I realized from some situation or personal/professional experiences I have to keep calm,listen,observe and then speak if required And lack of doing this I saw myself in trouble or people pointed on me for being wrong or interpret wrong and So many times I made the situation worst.Ireally want to improve.Kindly help me to build my skill on listening and be silent.
I realized from some situation or personal/professional experiences I have to keep calm,listen,observe and then speak if required And lack of doing this I saw myself in trouble or people pointed on me for being wrong or interpret wrong and So many times I made the situation worst.Ireally want to improve.Kindly help me to build my skill on listening and be silent.
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On Sep 25, 2023 Priti Patel wrote :
It is really connected passage with my life. I always got the feedback that I jumped in discussion,I never listen or I always talk rather than keeping silent.I want to improve on this skill to be silent even in the situation where I want to speak.
I realized from some situation or personal/professional experiences I have to keep calm,listen,observe and then speak if required And lack of doing this I saw myself in trouble or people pointed on me for being wrong or interpret wrong and So many times I made the situation worst.Ireally want to improve.Kindly help me to build my skill on listening and be silent.
I realized from some situation or personal/professional experiences I have to keep calm,listen,observe and then speak if required And lack of doing this I saw myself in trouble or people pointed on me for being wrong or interpret wrong and So many times I made the situation worst.Ireally want to improve.Kindly help me to build my skill on listening and be silent.
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On Sep 20, 2023 Suchitra Behera wrote :
Loved it. I talk a lot, but I think I need to practice to be still (silence) and listen.
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On Sep 19, 2023 Kennedy wrote :
Silence is not easy but it is quite necessary if have to overcome our communication barrier.
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On Sep 19, 2023 Mish wrote :
Is it true….is it necessary….is it kind . If it’s not, silence is golden when interacting with another.
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On Sep 19, 2023 Muralidhara Reddy wrote :
This narrative has truly struck a chord with me. The way it delved into "silence", which was so insightful and resonated deeply. It's exactly the kind of wisdom I believe we need in times like these. I can't help but appreciate it, and I hope you feel the same way after giving it a listen/read!
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On Sep 19, 2023 Jose V J wrote :
The New Gen must be taught about silence. The world becomes noisy and kills peace.
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On Sep 19, 2023 Jim Goulet wrote :
Thanks, It's sad that the Me Generation started in the 1980' s and has only gotten worse. We all need to listen.❤️
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On Sep 19, 2023 Pat Hardy wrote :
Very important lesson. When we say something we deem to be very important, it’s painful not to be heard, but words are seeds, so there is hope!!!
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On Sep 19, 2023 Anil Pandit wrote :
Many thanks for the summarizing the difference between 'Reaction and Response' by providing means of absorbing 'Earth's talk to us'.
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On Sep 19, 2023 Ade wrote :
There must be Native American blood in my veins; I appreciate the "kindness," of silence, however, my silence has always disturbed those around. I say "kindness" bc silence.. especially in conversation is loving. Allowing the other to talk when you to listen ...holy. peace
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On Sep 19, 2023 Dave Lipstreu wrote :
This is in keeping with the ancient admonition " he who speaks does not know, he who knows does not speak. " Very wise counsel.
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On Sep 19, 2023 Michelle Scott wrote :
Thank you for your wisdom. I have also learned our bodies, made of earth and the elements, & our ancestors will talk to us in quiet ways, if we listen. This, I have learnt from Knowledge Keepers & People here on this continent/land before my ancestors. ✨️
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On Sep 19, 2023 Val wrote :
A beautiful reminder of the notion of 2 eyes 2 ears one mouth. Thank you for this timely reminder
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On Sep 19, 2023 Muralidhara Reddy wrote :
This narrative—truly struck a chord with me. The way it delved into "silence", which was so insightful and resonated deeply. It's exactly the kind of wisdom I believe we need in times like these. I can't help but appreciate it, and I hope you feel the same way after giving it a listen/read!
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On Sep 18, 2023 Hareshwar Singh wrote :
"I will listen. Maybe I’ll stop listening if I don’t like what you are saying, but I won’t interrupt you."
Though I seem to grasp the heart of the matter, it arouses some questions in my mind:
1. Can we listen beyond our likes and dislikes ?
2. Why stop listening ? And if we stop listening, what will my mind do ? Either it would RESIST what is being said or go back to its old habit of mechanically wandering here and there denying itself the valuable opportunity of mindfully living in the Here & Now.
3. After all, when we listen to this chirping of birds or a tree's leaves rustling in the breeze, don't we put aside this whole business of agreeing or disagreeing?
4. And why fear interrupting the speaker if he/she is talking nonsense ? Yes, we have to be utterly polite--while saying, "I am sorry, what you're talking doesn't interest me, so why waste our time ?
5. Last but not least, I humbly suggest not to callously and indifferently 'go away'--without saying 'thank you for sh... [View Full Comment]
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On Sep 16, 2023 Jagdish P Dave wrote :
Speech is silver. Silence is golden. I love this wise saying. I hope and wish talkative people know it and put into practice. Sadly, it is mostly revesed. Speech has become golden and silenece has become silver. One of the hall marks of effective communication is lisenting with full and quiet attentiion and then respond. When someone talks, the poor listner is not interested in listening; he is intersted in talking. It is vey fustrating.experience for the listner.
There is an ancient wise saying in Sanskit: " Guorostu maunam vakhyanam Shishtastu chinna samshayaha." Student's doubts ae shattered by the silence of the Guru. The Guru teaches by silence. The teacher becomes a role model. The Guru observes the student with full attention and reads the mind of the student. The student learns a lesson of silence by fully paying attention to his Guru.
I am a teacher, counselor, and grandfather. I always listen to my students, cleints, and grandchildren by listening emapthetically what... [View Full Comment]
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On Sep 16, 2023 Paul Fillinger wrote :
We live in an impatient world. This is asking us to slow down, be open and listen!
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On Sep 16, 2023 David Doane wrote :
Anpetu Waste Win writes about something very important, the value of being quiet, not talking, listening. A favorite quote of mine by Pascal is "All of humanity's problems stem from man's inability to sit quietly in a room alone." There are as many voices as there are creatures, no two exactly the same. Over time I've learned to be silent and listen to the earth, or at least to the expressions of it, such as the birds, animals, insects, the wind, and to the many sounds all express, all of which affect me at a level deeper than talking and thinking, and I love it. What helps me grow my words in silence is the silence and patience that allow space and time for words and what they express to grow, not stepping on the seedlings by talking before they have a chance to develop.
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On Sep 16, 2023 Mamta wrote :
I struggle to talk in a way that is valued in the society. I used to judge myself for it wishing I could talk like I see others do. Hearing this is incredibly liberating for me. Thanks
And the words - There are many voices besides ours - are very expansive.
And the words - There are many voices besides ours - are very expansive.