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On Mar 26, 2013 SoUSa wrote on Tale of Two Sermons, by G.I. Gurdjieff:
Knowledge is the "know how".....but only through applying the "know-how" consistently comes understanding. Understanding leads to experiences that teach the soul and renew and shift the perspective of the mind/consciousness.Inresult man develops growth- wisdom. Wisdom ONLY comes from knowledge applied. The old man ever speaking but not of any effect, he speaks of knowledge he does not truly understand. Also, He is speaking not for others but or self gain. To try and "prove" he is wise. Thus his words sounds complicated to the listening ear and truly fades from the listeners mind all together.
The older man that spoke as a singing bird that made such impact, He was speaking from his personal experiences that gave him understanding......so he spoke of true wisdom that not only brought him to the place of the gifts he developed over time, he truly had the "know- how" that made him wise. (experience is the greatest teacher) When he spoke of this knowledge and understanding, it impacted the listening ears, because true wisdom effects the depths of every mans soul. Growing/becoming wise is eternally bonded with growing in compassion and love. The man that was so effective was sharing his understanding not to prove he had the knowledge but to share the 'know how "for the listeners to gain understanding as well.His compassion for their lack of understanding was his motives, unlike the first, he was selfLESS...If the people didn't right at first, later on through their own personal experiences, from having listening to true wisdom, they eventually did gain understanding and growth. The blissful state was a result from the understanding unraveling within the mind/consciousness of those that were listening to the true wise man. Wisdom always brings peace..... " the truth will set you free" Wisdom I... [View Full Comment]
On Mar 26, 2013 SoUSa wrote on Tale of Two Sermons, by G.I. Gurdjieff:
What you wrote is truth too 'Trying'...... Where a person is within their own perspective and personal journey greatly depends on how well they can "hear" and how much they are able to "grow"...no matter the Teacher. Both brothers can teach, and bring awareness of great knowledge and understanding to the table, indefinitely.... to those that are open to receive, listen and learn that is.
People who are younger can become over bored with excitement to consume new knowledge or be driven more by the ego that, to the point they can ask questions or admit they can't quite catch on. This hinders them from gaining valuable knowledge and understanding-from a teacher that's a peer or an elder. Likewise as elder can be so "stiff neck" and set in their ways, they already know all; the "I've been around the block more" mentality, the older generations can limit themselves as well as the younger, from the amount of understanding and wisdom that is never ending, (no matter the age) available to gain and benefit from.
Where I spoke of personal experiences; personally going through a "lesson" can and will provoke any one to have a more willing heart and opened mind, that enables them understand and receive benefits that wisdom freely gives. When a person has a more negative experience, especially consistently ( that brings about a sort of trial or pain) this makes a person willing, even desire to shed the ego and be humbled enough to actually listen and "ear". Then one can benefit from Our Teachers: young or an elder alike- anything that life brings about to teach us, for that matter....... wow this is a great topic.... I love this talking about this :)